Rules of usage
These rules are not to restrict anyone from using and
enjoying this system. Quite the opposite. They are in place to insure that all
users can use the system fairly and without having to endure the over-exuberance
of a new user hogging it without realizing his behavior is rude or impolite.
Hams are ‘gentlemanly’ by nature and will rarely interrupt even the most
impolite long-winded operators, but will stand by, quietly waiting. This gives
the impolite ham the false impression that nobody else is out there waiting to
use the system. Often, such is not the case.
Just like repeater autopatch, EchoLink
connections can overwhelm the regular operation of the repeater, and diminish
it’s usefulness for the routine users of the system. Reasonable courtesy, and
restraint must rule in order for the system to maintain its character and
provide utility and enjoyable communications for the hams in the area.
If you think of your EchoLink or remote base
connection as if it was an autopatch, you will quickly understand why these
guidelines have been put in place. The three modes (autopatch, EchoLink, remote
base) share many commonalities in their operation and their effect on the
‘personality’ of a repeater system, and should be thought of similarly.
Keep in mind, this system is very complicated and relies
on a lot of electronic and computer equipment, therefore, outages will happen
from time to time. Please know that we will do our best to keep things running
but, as this is a privately maintained system, the repairs may or may not be
done in a timely manner.
General repeater use:
Always use good amateur
practice. Follow the FCC rules.
- identify your
- allow some time between
transmissions. The courtesy tone is there for a reason.
***note: stations linked in on the wI0OK system do not
have a courtesy tone when you are listening to the 145.27 repeater. Also, if
you are using the 100hz tone for tone squelch mode, you may not hear the
- IF your QSO goes longer
then 10 min, please ask if anyone is waiting to make a call.
- The repeater
owners/trustees have the last say on who can use the system. (per FCC rules)
Please follow these simple (and reasonable) rules for its use.
- There is 1 Net that
uses the system. It Has Priority. The Benzie County ARPSC net is on Wednesday nights at
8:30pm. Please allow this netto go on as planned
by not engaging in conflicting repeater use during
those times (checking into these nets is encouraged).
- Please key your
microphone at least TWO FULL SECONDS before you start to speak so your audio
can propagate through the system. Due to the complex linking involved, if
you fail to heed the suggested ‘key-wait-talk’ advice your first few words
will almost always be cut off and not heard by the station to which you are
- If the owners or
trustees feel that conduct on the repeater (or via the EchoLink or remote
base) is not in accordance with the intent of these rules or general fair
and reasonable use of the system, they may terminate the links without
notice at any time.
Listen a little
while BEFORE transmitting
- identify BEFORE
using EchoLink – Wait a few seconds for stations to reply to your
request BEFORE dialing your connection
- You must make
contact with the repeater owner (W8TVC and KC8PCQ) or one of the
trustees (N7LMJ and KF8KK) to get the access codes. This is to make sure
you have read these rules. Do this via email by email at:
- EchoLink access
codes are given out ONLY by the repeater owner / trustees. Please do not
give out the codes. Instead, direct new users to this website
(www.w8tvc.com) It is ok if you bring it up for someone as long as you
stay around to make sure the rules are followed and you bring it down.
- Limit EchoLink
sessions to 30min per every 3 hours. This means if you start an EchoLink
QSO at 12 noon, you should turn off the link at or before 12:30 and
should not open another connection until at least 3pm. 30min is
reasonable for a QSO in most situations.
- If you open an
EchoLink connection, please stay on the air and available to shut it
down. If you are heading towards the
outskirts of the repeater system range make sure to close the connection
BEFORE you fall out of range.
- Do Not open and
EchoLink connection just to listen. Open the connection and make your
call. If you get no answer, close the connection. You can call back
later. Active participation by at least one local user is a requirement
for all EchoLink connections.
- An email list will
be created so when we have to change the codes, or make other repeater
changes, you will stay informed.
- Standing permission
to stay connected longer then the 30 minute limit is given to the
WA8ZWJ-r link in Union Ohio and to National Weather Service in Gaylord and
- EchoLink connections
to distant conference servers (NASA audio, out-of-region weather nets,
trader nets, etc) is only allowed with prior approval of the owners or
- You must maintain
active participation in any QSO that is ongoing if you link into a
remote system with a QSO in progress. If there’s no local station
transmission to the QSO after 20 minutes, it will be deemed as if the
local initiator of the connection was just ‘listening’, which is not in
keeping with these rules.
- The repeater owners
or trustees can alter or make exceptions to these rules at any time, for
any reason, with or without prior notice.
Same as outgoing, you
must limit your connect time to 30min every 3 hours
- Please do not connect to
W8TVC-R while in conference unless all stations in the conference wish to
talk to someone on the W8TVC-r end of the connection.
In other words, we don’t really want to hear
some remote station in QSO with some other EchoLink station if it has
nothing to do with us, or there are no local users participating in the QSO.
- Please make contact with
us ( owners/trustees ) on the air, or via the email address below. We would
like to get to know our regular users from the other side of the internet.
The W8TVC Repeater is linked
full time to the 444.725mhz and 52.92mhz wI0OK repeater system near Empire
Michigan and the 444.2mhz Repeater near Cadillac.. The remote base functionality exists as an ancillary feature of the
Empire WI0OK/r system and consists of transceivers that allow communications to
other systems/frequencies on 2 meters and 222mhz as if your transceiver and
antenna were located atop a hill south of Glen Arbor. This system is owned by
John, KF8KK and he has generously allowed the W8TVC system to link for better
coverage and for use of the remote base system. Please beware that the verbal
remote base command acknowledgements from the Empire repeater does not carry
through to the 145.27 repeater, regardless of whether the command has been
processed and a link to another system established.
BEFORE using the remote base – Wait a few
seconds for stations to reply to your request BEFORE dialing your
- As with EchoLink,
limit QSO’s on the remote base to 30min every 3 hours.
- Do not just bring up
a link just to listen. Make a call and if it’s not answered, please
disconnect the link.
- If you bring it up,
bring it down when you are done.
- There are no special
agreements with most of the repeater owners that the remote base can
connect to, so please be on your best behavior on these systems.
Many hams have
trouble understanding complex linking systems and mistakenly assume
there is something unseemly or illegal in such operation. Please educate
yourself on the actual current FCC regulations so that you may be
helpful for some of the hams you may encounter who may not be up to
speed on the finer points of our hobby.
If you agree
with these rules of use, please email the owners/trustees to get the access codes for EchoLink and the
Remote base system at:
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